mark fuhrman testimony
Q: OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE PATH THAT LEADS TO THE DOOR THAT LEADS INTO THE BOTTOM REAR OF THE RESIDENCE. Q: AND YOU DIDN'T ASK HIM IF MR. SIMPSON HAD BEEN THE ONE USING THE LIMOUSINE? Q: OKAY.HOW LONG DID YOU SPEND AT THAT LOCATION GETTING THIS INFORMATION BEFORE YOU MOVED TO SOMEWHERE ELSE? THERE WAS UNIFORMED OFFICERS WITH THE BRONCO AT THE FRONT OF THE ROCKINGHAM GATE, UNIFORMED OFFICERS TO THE FRONT OF ASHFORD.DETECTIVE ROBERTS AT SOME POINT REJOINED ME AT THAT LOCATION AND I DON'T -- THERE WAS SEVERAL DETECTIVES THAT ENDED UP THERE, AND I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT TIME. A: PHIL MADE A STATEMENT THAT, "WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN. A: WE WALKED AT THE BEST PATH THAT WE COULD DETERMINE AT THAT TIME. A: SIR, THE WAY YOU PHRASED THAT, "GET ME OUT OF THIS CASE"? Q: DO YOU -- THAT SMUDGE THAT YOU SEE THERE, DO YOU RECALL SEEING THAT DARKER SPOT ON THE WOOD WHEN YOU OBSERVED IT? Q: WHERE WAS DETECTIVE PHILLIPS OR DETECTIVE VANNATTER? FAIRTLOUGH: PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 48-K. Q: BY MS. CLARK: DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT, SIR? A: WELL, THAT AND THEN COUPLED WITH THE POSSIBLE IDENTITY OF ONE OF THE VICTIMS, I WOULD GUESS THAT IT WOULD BE HAPPENING, YES. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THESE IN TERMS OF FORMAL OR ROUGH NOTES? Q: BUT DID YOU QUESTION KATO FOR A TIME AND THEN YOU CAME OUT TO THE KITCHEN, SEATED HIM IN A BAR STOOL AND SAID TO DETECTIVE VANNATTER, "YOU OUGHT TO GO TALK TO HIM"? Q: OKAY. A: IT WAS MENTIONED, BUT I SAID I DON'T KNOW THIS WOMAN. I SAID LACERATION IS TEARING, IT'S NOT AN INCISION. IT WASN'T VERY GOOD LIGHT. A: YES. Q: DID YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD BE AN ESSENTIAL WITNESS IF YOU WERE THE FIRST TO FIND AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF EVIDENCE? A: I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH MAYBE NO LATER THAN 20 AFTER. IF YOU COULD HAVE LEARNED THAT, OFFICER FUHRMAN, THAT WOULD HELPED YOU IN SO FAR AS TIME OF DEATH; WOULD IT NOT? Q: OKAY.THE ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS:"DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM," MEANING KATO KAELIN, "AT THAT TIME," 47 LINE 12. Q: DID YOU SEE A COUPLE OF GLOVES UP THERE? A: I THINK WHEN I WENT TO THE SOUTH BORDER AND I SAW THE PATH, I WALKED DOWN THE PATH AS A CONTINUATION OF DISCOVERING WHERE THAT SOUND OF THAT WALL WAS LOCATED. Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND ARE THOSE THE BLOOD DROPS THAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED IN YOUR NOTES INITEM NO. Q: WHERE WERE YOU AND WHO WERE YOU TALKING WITH WHEN THE SUBJECT CAME UP? A: WELL, THIS WAS THEIR CRIME SCENE, SO THEY WERE DISCUSSING WHAT HAD BEEN FOUND, AND IF ANYTHING, WHAT IT MEANT. DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT WAS SHOWN? 8, WAS THAT SOMETHING YOU OBSERVED, SIR? Q: OKAY.NOW, YOU SAID, "WHEN I FOUND THE GLOVE AND ACTUALLY REALIZED THIS GLOVE WAS VERY CLOSE IN DESCRIPTION AND COLOR TO THE GLOVE AT THE CRIME SCENE." A: I THINK I WAS LEAVING AT THAT TIME AND WE WENT OUT. A: AT THAT EARLY IN THE INVESTIGATION IT HADN'T OCCURRED TO ME, NO. A: YES. THERE WAS -- THERE WAS TWO CHILDREN IN THE HOUSE. Q: NOW, DID YOU GET A GOOD LOOK AT THE WOMAN'S FACE? AND THAT WAS YOUR PERSONAL OBSERVATION, SIR? A: I BELIEVE THEY HAD RETURNED.DETECTIVE LANGE ARRIVED FIFTEEN, TWENTY MINUTES AFTER THEM, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER. DO YOU MEAN HEEL PRINT BY A SHOE OR BARE FOOT? The Trial of Orenthal James Simpson: An Account, "IF I Did It": The Quasi-Confession of O. J. Simpson, The Trial of O. J. Simpson: Selected Documents, The O. J. Simpson Trial: Excerpts from the Trial Transcript, The Trial of O. J. Simpson: The Incriminating Evidence, Biographical Sketches of Key Players in the O. J. Simpson Trial, Two Satirical Reviews of the O. J. Simpson Trial, The O. Simpson Trial: Links and Bibliography. I HAVE TO CATCH UP WITH I HAVE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT, HOW DO WE RECOVER IT.SO THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS THAT I HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT FOR NOTIFICATIONS TO GET PEOPLE TO THE LOCATION TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. Q: YOU NOW SAY THAT WAS A HOPE AND NOT A THOUGHT? A: I SAW DETECTIVE VANNATTER IN THE KITCHEN. Q: OKAY. I WALKED IN JUST TO MAKE SURE NOBODY WAS IN THERE AND I OPENED UP THE CLOSETS TO MAKE SURE NO ONE WAS STANDING IN THE CLOSETS. "DID YOU GIVE THAT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION ON YOUR DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MS. CLARK ON JULY 5TH? Q: OKAY.SO WHAT WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE FROM THE VANTAGE POINT OF THAT FIRST GATE AREA GOING DOWN? A: RIGHT ABOUT WHEN WE TURNED. I DIDN'T TOUCH IT, BUT IT APPEARED THAT PARTS WERE STICKING TO OTHER PARTS OF THE GLOVE. OUTSIDE AT THE INTERSECTION THERE? A: IF I COULD IDENTIFY HER VOICE ON THE PHONE. RETIRED LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman, whose perjured testimony in the O.J. Q: DID YOU EVER GO BACK INTO THE CRIME SCENE BEFORE GOING TO ROCKINGHAM LATER THAT MORNING? MR. SIMPSON WHAT? Q: ALL RIGHT.SO THAT IF YOU IN FACT USED THE WORD "IN," YOU MISSPOKE YOURSELF? Q: YOU HAD NO REASON TO THINK THAT WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT GLOVE WAS WOUNDED, DID YOU? Q: WHY WOULD YOU HAVE USED THE WORD "IN," DETECTIVE FUHRMAN, PLEASE? WHEN DETECTIVE PHILLIPS TOLD YOU THAT, DIDN'T YOU? A: THROUGHOUT -- SINCE JUNE 13, IT SEEMS THAT I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THE EVIDENCE IGNORED AND A LOT OF PERSONAL ISSUES COME TO THE FOREFRONT. Q: RISKE DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT THE AREA HAD BEEN LOOKED AT, GARBAGE CANS, DIPSEY-DUMPSTERS AND SO FORTH? Q: DID THAT BRING TO YOUR MIND YOUR PRIOR ASSOCIATION WITH THE SIMPSON'S IN 1985 AS AN INVESTIGATING PATROLMAN AND AS A POTENTIAL WITNESS IN 1989? Q: ALL RIGHT.AND IS IT NOT ROUTINE THAT SOMEBODY BE IN CHARGE OF A HOMICIDE AFTER IT IS DISCOVERED? Q: ALL RIGHT. HE HAD A LARGER FLASHLIGHT I BELIEVE. Q: THEY HAVE TIME -- THIS IS NO PART OF YOUR TRAINING I TAKE IT? Q: WHAT ABOUT THAT SHOVEL? Q: OKAY. Q: DID YOU ATTEMPT TO PERSUADE MISS --LET ME BACK UP FOR A SECOND. A: I BELIEVE WHEN HE WAS STANDING RIGHT THERE. Q: DID YOU LOOK INTO ANY OTHER ROOMS UPSTAIRS? All right. Q: DETECTIVE FUHRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW WITH YOU THE STEPS YOU HAVE TAKEN TO PREPARE YOURSELF FOR TESTIMONY IN THIS CASE.WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME FOLLOWING THE PRELIMINARY HEARING THAT YOU MET WITH ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS, THOSE AT THE TABLE AND THOSE NOT AT THE TABLE, THAT YOU KNOW TO BE CONNECTED WITH THIS CASE, TO DISCUSS THE CASE AND/OR YOUR TESTIMONY? THERE IS LEAVES ALL OVER THE WALKWAY. YOU SAW A KNIFE WOUND AND THAT IS IT? A: I'M NOT SURE IF WE TESTIFIED TO THAT IN THE PRELIM OR NOT. I REMEMBER TALKING TO VANNATTER BECAUSE HE SAID WE WERE GOING TO SECURE THIS AND HANDLE IT LIKE A CRIME SCENE, AND THEN I STARTED TALKING TO MR. COWLINGS AND MISS SIMPSON. A: NO. "Why would it be moist and sticky unless he brought it over there and planted it there to try to make this case?" Q: WHEN YOU WENT BACK INSIDE, HOW DID YOU ENTER THE RESIDENCE THE SECOND TIME?

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